Opened 8 years ago

Last modified 21 months ago

#7505 confirmed Bug

[FF] Accessibility shortcuts problem

Reported by: Michał Owned by:
Priority: Normal Milestone: CKEditor 4.7.1
Component: Accessibility Version: 3.0
Keywords: Linux Drupal Cc:

Description

Tested on firefox 3.6.16 on ubuntu. Shortcut (alt+f10) from http://docs.cksource.com/CKEditor_3.x/Users_Guide/Keyboard_Shortcuts in Accessibility section doesn't work.

Change History (17)

comment:1 Changed 8 years ago by Jakub Ś

Keywords: Linux added
Status: newconfirmed
Version: 3.53.0

I have tested this also on Opera and Chromium and it doesn't work there either.

Ubuntu uses Alt+F10 to resize windows. Browser window is resized, but CKEditor doesn't set focus on toolbar afterwards thus making access to the toolbar through keyboard impossible.

comment:2 Changed 6 years ago by Gareth Alexander

Ubuntu 12.04 has changed the binding for Alt+F10 to open the indicator menu. Still makes access to the toolbar impossible using a keyboard.

comment:3 Changed 6 years ago by Wiktor Walc

Component: GeneralAccessibility

comment:4 Changed 6 years ago by Wiktor Walc

Keywords: Drupal added

Reported also in http://drupal.org/node/1879430

How about providing another alternative shortcut?

comment:5 Changed 6 years ago by Wiktor Walc

Milestone: CKEditor 4.0.2

As Piotrek suggested, we have a potentially related issue in #9827. Let's see if we can solve them together.

comment:6 Changed 6 years ago by Frederico Caldeira Knabben

Milestone: CKEditor 4.0.2

I'm untargetting this for now, considering that our accessibility focus is JAWS (therefore Windows),

comment:7 Changed 6 years ago by Gareth Alexander

Fair enough if that's the policy that has been taken, but accessibility is about more than just providing for blind users.

Consideration should be also given to other with other types of accessibility requirements. For example, those with diminished motor skills that means they have full vision but can't use a mouse.

I was going to suggest if this was going to be looked at perhaps take into consideration Mac users who currently have to use fn-option-F10, the 3 key option isn't always great if someone is only able to use the keyboard with one hand.

comment:8 Changed 6 years ago by Andrew Macpherson

The Linux problem described isn't universal to all set-ups. Perhaps the Ubuntu problem is specific to the Unity desktop environment.

I succeeded in using Alt + 0, Alt + F10, Alt + F11, using:

  • Linux Mint 13 KDE edition (Ubuntu 12.04 based)
  • KDE 4.8.5
  • Chromium 24
  • CKeditor 4.0 DEV (I was trying out Drupal 8 dev)
  • NOT using a screenreader

comment:9 Changed 6 years ago by Mike Gifford

Keywords: accessibility added

Adding keyword.

comment:10 Changed 6 years ago by Jakub Ś

Keywords: accessibility removed

@mgifford please note that component has Accessibility name set. We use only few values for keywords (like browsers' and operating systems' names versions). This key word is not necessary there.

comment:11 Changed 5 years ago by Wiktor Walc

I have the same problem on Fedora 19 (with Gnome 3.8). Alt + F10 resizes the browser window.

comment:12 Changed 5 years ago by Wiktor Walc

#10503 was marked as duplicate

comment:13 Changed 5 years ago by Olek Nowodziński

cc

comment:14 Changed 3 years ago by Piotrek Koszuliński

Milestone: CKEditor 4.6.0

I discussed this issue with @m.lewandowski and @fredck and the only thing we can do is of course to add an alternative keystroke and documenting it.

Questions asked were:

  • do we need to do this – is it our bug?
  • what keystroke can we use? Would ALT+SHIFT+F10 be ok (seems to do nothing on Ubuntu)?

The answer for the 1st question is that yes, this is our problem. Some keystrokes are reserved for OS and of course they can vary, but it's not a browser issue that we cannot intercept them and not an OS issue.

The 2nd question is still open.

comment:15 Changed 2 years ago by Marek Lewandowski

Milestone: CKEditor 4.6.0CKEditor 4.6.1

comment:16 Changed 2 years ago by Marek Lewandowski

Milestone: CKEditor 4.6.1CKEditor 4.7.0

comment:17 Changed 21 months ago by Marek Lewandowski

Milestone: CKEditor 4.7.0CKEditor 4.7.1
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